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Re: Anglo-something-or-other

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And certainly, he felt the importance of an English religion.

Lee


In a message dated 1/11/02 8:39:58 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

<< Somewhere--I don't remember the source at the moment--Eliot said he 
regarded the Anglican Church as the Catholic Church in England.  I think 
he did feel the importance of a kind of universal religion.
Nancy


Date sent:          Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:09:11 EST
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It's absolutely "anglo-catholic in religion" and it appears in the preface
to the collection of essays "For Lancelot Andrewes." And note the
lowercase "a" and "c"--the lowercase "c" in catholic simply means
universal as against in fellowship with the Roman Catholic (capital "C")
Church.

Lee

In a message dated Fri, 11 Jan 2002  3:48:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:

> In a message dated Fri, 11 Jan 2002  1:07:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Rickard A Parker <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> 
> > Tom K. wrote:
> > 
> > > I'll note that Eliot's famous description of him self as "a
> > > classicist in literature, a royalist in politics and an
> > > Anglo-Catholic in religion"
> > 
> > Are you sure this isn't a misquotation Tom?  I've found something
> > slightly different:
> >     http://www.ufrj.br/pacc/literaria/cricon.html
> >         ... da conhecida profiss=E3o de f=E9 do autor - "a classicist
> >         in literature, a royalist in politics, and an Anglo-Saxon in
> >         religion". Mas nossa infer=EAncia n=E3o ...=20
> > 
> 
> I'm quite sure that "Anglo-Catholic" is is what Eliot said.  I have read
> and repeated the quote so many times over so many years that I can't
> source it to you offhand.  I imagine you could find it in your Ducal
> capacity.
> 
> I don't know what it would mean to be "an Anglo-Saxon in religion"; for
> example, I believe both Cromwell and Charles I were Anglo-Saxon, and
> Eliot was not one to dismiss the theological differences between them. 
> (Despite his call for retrospective reconciliation in Little Gidding.) 
> In any case, even if a meaning can reasonably be assigned to the phrase,
> I do not believe it is the phrase Eliot used.  Or if he did, it was in
> addition to, and a less famous cousin of, the expression I quoted. (In
> that case, the less famous cousin would deserve further consideration.)
> 
> I'm open to correction.  But I think the facts will bear me out on this
> one.
> 
> Tom K




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