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RE: Romanticism and TSE

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Meyer Robert K GS-9 99 CES/CECT <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:42:20 -0700

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The beginning of TWL when he kind of comes off like a Jewish prophet is a
little like what Blake would do, although TSE has a bit of irony while Blake
is dead serious.

Robert

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	james loucks [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
	Sent:	Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:38 AM
	To:	[log in to unmask]
	Cc:	[log in to unmask]
	Subject:	Re: Romanticism and TSE

	TSE belongs to the post-Romantic era, which inherited from the
Romantics a lyric poetry of the self (albeit a self tormented by issues of
identity, repression, etc.) TSE's work is in virtually every way different
from the British Romantics (who were very different from one another). TSE's
early work recalls Webster, Donne, Marvell and Pope (among the English)
rather than Blake, Wordsworth, et al. Of course his strongest influences
were Laforgue and Dante. He often stated that he had nothing to learn from
19th-century British or American poets, or even from older contemporaries,
like Yeats. 

	TSE owes more to Browning (which some of TSE's early reviewers
noted) than to any other 19th British poet, though TSE would have scoffed at
the notion. 

	Jim 

	At 11:01 AM 6/3/2001 EDT, you wrote:  
	>>>> 

		In a message dated 6/2/01 9:56:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

		[log in to unmask] writes:  



			TSE is in every way a Romantic.  He is simply more
analytical.  TSE does not  
			truly see the world as "burning burning burning
burning".  He sees the  
			world  
			as a very cruel and dark place that he has been
alienated from (read about  
			his life).  He longs to be a passionate man of
action (think Lord Byron or  
			even Teddy Roosevelt) but always falls short.  Or at
least that is what he  
			expresses in his poetry (I know I shouldn't say what
Eliot felt, but I have  
			analyses that agree).  I hope now you see how Eliot
is a romantic.   



		Not really. Maybe you need to be more specific about the
"analyses that  
		agree" with you.  

		pat  


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