I heard both you and Thomas referring to nostalgic idealics as romantic.
Nostalgia and romantic I thought were different. I had always thought of
nostalgia for a simpler, bucolic, country life amongst the pigs and
chickens as pastoral. I "heard" in yours and Thomas posts everything except
"country" "pigs" and "chickens". Hence my questions. The questions were
not intended to be challenging. They were questions but I can say that I do
not think TSE is pastoral and perhaps you do not either.
I am currently reading of the Georgians. The poets following the tradition
as set forth by Edward Marsh around the turn of the twentieth century. The
modernists were pretty much in opposition with the Georgians yet much of
what Thomas and you were saying would have applied very nicely to Georgian
poetry. I think!!!
Confused and from very near the shadow
McIntosh, NM, USA
From: Marcia Karp <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Romanticism and TSE
>Richard Seddon wrote:
>> I "hear" pastoral in your posts. Is the pastoral romantic? Is the
>> pastoral? Can a pastoral poem be rendered non-romantically? I am not
>> that any Modernist is pastoral. "Cousin Nancy" does ride over the hills
>> she breaks them. Modernists seem pretty urban to me. Can a poet write
>> non-romantic poetry lyrically?
> What in the posts sounds to you like pastoral? Which pastoral poems
>thinking of as romantic? I'd rather understand you better before trying to