Richard Seddon wrote:
> I heard both you and Thomas referring to nostalgic idealics as romantic.
> Nostalgia and romantic I thought were different. I had always thought of
> nostalgia for a simpler, bucolic, country life amongst the pigs and
> chickens as pastoral. I "heard" in yours and Thomas posts everything except
> "country" "pigs" and "chickens". Hence my questions. The questions were
> not intended to be challenging. They were questions but I can say that I do
> not think TSE is pastoral and perhaps you do not either.
I didn't hear any unwarranted challenge, Rick. I hope you don't hear me
challenging in the wrong way when I ask again what poems you have in mind.
Educate us, please, on the Georgians. I take it the name comes from George V's
reign. But, "George" itself comes from "farmer" and--minds slipping as they
do--I am brought back to your description of pastoral. (Virgil's Georgics are
lessons in husbandry. How for instance to generate a swarm of bees inside the
carcass of a bludgeoned bullock. An experiment for a rancher like you.) The
ones I know are written by the city folk, not the farmers and shepherds and
there is no desire to live a pastoral life. A criticism of urbanity is
central. (That's why I want to know what poems you have in mind. We may likely
be thinking of different ones. Literary terms!) Perhaps pastoral includes any
poem set in the country.