I don't know why I recieved this, but I have the feeling it wasn't for
me...your paths must have gotten crossed or something. So here it is back
if you need it.
>From: "Berit Vilu" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: arché
>Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:20:03 +0300
>i don't actually know any Greek, but the term arché was discussed in one of
>my philosophy courses last semester. unfortunately i don't have the notes
>with me, but since something in my memory stirred when i read your question
>and no one else seems to have anything to say, i will share what i can
>remember. Arché can be said to mean "the beginning", but in Greek
>philosophy, especially the Aristotelian interpretation of the
>it means something like the founding principle (since the course was not in
>English, I'm having trouble expressing myself). Aristotle, in discussing
>Thales, claims that for him, water was the arché, assuming that what Thales
>meant is: everything comes from water and is water. So in a way the
>beginning is the present. Heidegger says something like this: arché is the
>source and as the source it determins/governs what comes from it - so in
>this sense there is also the connection with the present.
>i don't know if this was any help. if you are interested, you should
>probably read the Pre-Socratic philosophers (Cambridge University Press has
>a very enlightening book with Greek texts by and about them, English
>translations and commentaries) and Heidegger, who is interesting both in
>terms of his revisions in our understanding of Greek philosophical terms
>the Pre-Socratics. TSE, as I understand, was familiar with both Heidegger's
>works and the Pre-Socratics. hoping that helped and my memory didn't let me
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>>Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:58:44 +0200
>> I'm reading the 'Dialogues sur le mythe d'Antigone', Pierre Boutang
>>& George Steiner, and founding there the word 'arché' (Greek), which
>>says means 'the begining' but also 'the present', It comes to me 'In my
>>beginning is my end' and many other words.
>> Does any one of you who knows Greek confirm this point? I dont't
>>know if it is only speculation. It would be nice thinking on words about
>>time, in Greek language, and compare it with those of TSE.
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