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In a message dated 05/28/2001 10:02:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
> The last two paragraphs were the quote from Campbell. Besides, I don't > care much if the term that is used is Waste Land or wasteland as long as > the poem's title is gotten correctly. An exception is made for Kate > because she knows what the title really is ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 [...]36_29May200112:09:[log in to unmask]
7413 140 20_Re: myth and reality14_Richard [log in to unmask], 29 May 2001 10:27:02 -0600559_- This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Kate:
What action or quality of the "third" makes the "third" (line 360) a = questor? The questor of myth is not unknown or mysterious. The questor = is usually the central action charactor. The King and the Country = (waste land) are usually just background staging within which the = questor acts. [...]36_29May200110:27:[log in to unmask]
7554 28 18_Reality and poetry11_Marcia [log in to unmask], 29 May 2001 13:30:22 -0400543_- Rickard Parker wrote:
> I see the Fisher King and the questor both as the poem's poetic self. > Since I see TWL as a personal poem that means Eliot. But I don't see > much of the questor actually in the poem. He faced some personal > problems that could be considered a wounding and he had to cope with > them. The writing of TWL itself was one way of doing that. It > certainly was a deluge of writing after what he must have considered a > > drought. And in the writing he had to face [...]35_29May200113:30:[log in to unmask]
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In a message dated 05/29/2001 12:27:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> . The King and the Country (waste land) are usually just background staging > within which the questor acts. > >
Exactly, but here, the Waste Land is the main point and the questor lurks in the background.
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7623 41 22_Re: Reality and poetry16_Rickard A [log in to unmask], 29 May 2001 15:20:17 -0400 (EDT)372_- Marcia Karp wrote:
> If what you say is true -- that the writing of the poem was a coping > strategy for the wounded poet -- in what ways does your insight matter > to the reading of the poem? I don't mean in what ways was Eliot > affected by his own life, but in what ways do readers benefit from > knowing the facts of his life? [...]49_29May200115:20:17-0400(EDT)[log in to unmask]
7665 58 22_Re: Reality and poetry11_Marcia [log in to unmask], 29 May 2001 16:38:56 -0400543_- Rickard A Parker wrote:
> Marcia Karp wrote: > > > If what you say is true -- that the writing of the poem was a coping > > strategy for the wounded poet -- in what ways does your insight matter > > to the reading of the poem? I don't mean in what ways was Eliot > > affected by his own life, but in what ways do readers benefit from > > knowing the facts of his life? > > This might not be a word I would thought of using before quoting > Joseph Campbell but [...]35_29May200116:38:56-040¦ž2a |