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TSE March 2001

Subject:

Re: More on Stetson post

From:

"Richard Seddon" <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:35:41 -0700

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Justin

I agree absolutely. I wear a Stetson with my Levis but most cattlepeople
round here wear Resinol(sp) with their Wranglers. And they would refer to
it as "my hat". Stetson makes all styles including a "Cattleman" but they
also make everyday hamburgs (I think thats the style). Resinol doesn't make
anything but "Cattleman" style as far as I know. If one were to go out to
buy a "cowboy" hat in New Mexico he/she would probably end up with a silver
or black Resinol. I have never heard someone refer to their hat as a
"Stetson". That doesn't mean TSE didn't have it wrong but I think it is
pushing it to refer to an Australian hat as a Stetson. By the way my very
favorite hat (which I never wear) is an official, for sure, Royal Canadian
Mounted Police hat. It is made by John B Stetson of Canada. Traded an
almost new U.S. Navy Commander hat, off my head, for it, off a Mounty's
head, at a formal dinner party in St. John's Newfoundland that the Mounties
were holding. I also got his suspenders to boot. I think I got much the
better deal. Sort of humerous to remember that Mounty walking around with a
Commander's hat on crowing about his trophy but having to hold up his
trousers while he was doing it.

Rick Seddon
McIntosh, NM, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: J Blessinger <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Monday, March 26, 2001 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: More on Stetson post


>Growing up in Montana, I don't recall the term "Stetson" being used to
>describe a style. It was, and still is, used to describe a brand. Perhaps
>in the larger culture, stetson = cowboy hat, and admittedly, this is a very
>common brand, but the brand name is still important to the locals, much
like
>Wrangler jeans are part of the uniform. Sometimes I've heard other hats
>referred to as Stetsons, but only ironically, much in the same way as one
>might say, "Have Mack bring the Caddy 'round front," when one actually
>drives a run-down pickup.
>
>Justin
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rickard Parker" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:39 AM
>Subject: More on Stetson post
>
>
>> Steve sent a lot of detail in his "Stetson in the Waste Land" post and I
>> wanted to add a few more and make a few corrections too. I decided that
>> I would do that in a seperate post from my real reply and this is it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The battle of Gallipoli we usually think about took place on the
>> pennisula to the north of the Dardenelles but the campaign also took
>> place to the south. It was there that the French landed.
>>
>> One reason the battle was so difficult was because the first invasion
>> was called off and the ships headed back to Egypt to pick up the
>> ammunition that was needed! This gave the Turkish army more warning.
>>
>> The Verdenal dedication to Prufrock was simpler at first, originally
>> it was just "To Jean Verdenal, 1889-1915" (he was actually born 1890).
>> Later editions had the information about the Dardenelles. For more
>> detail than most care about on the dedication see
>> http://world.std.com/~raparker/pub/jean.html#Dedications
>>
>> On the diggers - this was an older Australian term for miners. The
>> story is that the name got re-applied to the WWI soldiers because of
>> all the digging they did (trenches.) I have a vague recollection
>> of reading that the soldiers were called diggers before WWI though.
>>
>> On the "Mrs Porter" ballad I have more at
>>
http://world.std.com/~raparker/exploring/thewasteland/exsongs.html#RedWing
>>
>> You are just a bit off on the hats Steve. Both Stetson and Akubra are
>> brand names. While Stetson has come to signify a certain style of hat
>> (the cowboy hat) I don't think that Akubra has. The picture that you
>> sent is more of the style that we call the Stetson but it is not the
>> style worn by the diggers. That one looks like the classic safari hat
>> of the movies with one side of the brim turned up (left side, so when
>> the soldiers marched carrying their rifles left shoulder arms they would
>> not knock their hats off.) I picked up two of these hats when
>> vagabonding down under ages ago; they were made by two different
>> companies, neither was Akubra.
>>
>> I may send some hat links in a future post. I've got a few good hats and
>> Rick S. has at least one great one.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rick Parker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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