Hi Rick P,
I'm getting TSE posts now, after un-subscribing & re-subscribing. I bought
a Handel CD maybe a year ago & the liner notes said he was commissioned
write a piece for the English victory at Culloden. I don't know if the
subject was his choice or not, but the piece in question was the oratorio
"Judas Maccabaeus" which seems a little odd. When one compares JM with the
Duke of Cumberland, the Duke looks very unheroic. Don't know if Handel was
saying something with the juxtaposition or just doing a job for the money.
From: Rickard A Parker [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:42 AM
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Subject: OFF TOPIC - The Story of English and Culloden
Nancy Gish wrote:
> "The Story of English" was extremely well done, and I assume the
> were pretty accurate, but the thesis it promoted was, in my view,
> problematic. The only section I could really evaluate was on
Scots (and to
> some extent Gaelic), and I found it infuriating in its assumptions
> wonderful way English supplanted them. It simply did not happen
> nor was its priviliging welcomed.
> I saw it too long ago to be specific, but I do think it was an
> presumption and self congratulation that dismissed other cultures.
> remembering my distressed reaction rather than specific examples.
I saw "The Story of English" too long ago to remember a lot of
but I do recall (rightly or wrongly) that the show that brought in
Scots started with the battle of Culloden and mentioning that a new
anti-Scots verse was added to the new anthem "God Save the King." I
hope that I am remembering this correctly. I have the book but it
packed away someplace and I am NOT going to unpack. So I would say
that if this were true the producers knew that the Scots didn't just
take to the English language.
I did do a bit of web searching and have come up with the following:
"God Save the King" dates to 1745.
The battle of Culloden was 1746.
The verse that was added was:
God grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy Mighty aid,
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.
The Rise & Fall of the Jacobite Rebellion
The web page above, after telling the story of Culloden, ends with:
I am a Highland born and bred 26 year old. In my school days I
taught English history - William the Conqueror - The Romans -
Arthur - Even Robin Hood. I was taught in English and had the
of languages between French and Gaelic. I and 22 other class
chose Gaelic - there were over 300 in my class.
Bonnie Prince Charlie, Culloden and God Save the King
I believe that the "Rebellious Scots" verse from has since been
removed from "God Save the King/Queen" and only the first verse is
official but I'm a Yank and I'm more familiar with "My Country Tis
Other bloody national anthems: