I just got a message from another site that there was a New York State Law
broken and the apartment manager has agreed to let them rebuild.  Is there
anything to this?  Marie Bohndorf Kansas City KS
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Besser" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pale Male


>I hope I don't sound like the Grinch in this discussion, but I think it
> is very likely that the Pale Male pair will simply find another adequate
> nest site on another building or in a tree in Central Park?  After all,
> they have put up with many years of intense human attention and they are
> now a very experienced breeding pair.
>
> I know that many have formed an intense emotional attachment to these
> birds, but I find it a bit absurd that this 'crisis' merits all the
> hand-wringing, including a press release by National Audubon Society.
> Shouldn't they be busy lobbying to stop the next ANWR bill or something?
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> John
>
> ++++++++++++++
> John Besser
> Columbia Missouri
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MO Wild Bird Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> True, Cynthia D.
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 1:46 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pale Male
>
> Irony:  Not wanting to clean up the dropping from one family of hawks,
> but ultimately having to clean up the droppings from the hundreds of
> pigeons that move in now that they don't have to worry about the hawks.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MO Wild Bird Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Edge Wade
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:39 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pale Male
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for the info.  I wonder if there was any discussion of this with
> the birding community?  I'll bet birders would have volunteered to clean
> on a routine basis, if asked.  Does anyone know if attempts to establish
> a rapport between the building residents and birders was made?
> Edge
>
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